• This conversation revolves around Dora Apel’s work in the field of art and memory. Memory, in its mediating force, is critical for our understanding of the present and the construction of a future, or, rather, as Dora Apel posits it in her recent book Calling Memory Into Place: “Memory effects are not about the past. How do they shape the present and future? Can the way we remember the past play an active
    role in fighting ongoing forms of oppression and persecution?” (2020). These questions are a critical invitation to think about events, topics and processes that also mark Dora Apel’s work. In this conversation we discuss the issues of memory and ruin, justice and oppression, as well as the environment in the context of thinking about art. Thus, we hope to bring forward not only the mechanics of how memory in the arts operates in the present, what it foregrounds and obscures, but also its relation to the environment.