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How can we find and map C17th Thames shore warehouses?

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      Colin Greenstreet

      What text and archaeological records exist which we could make use of in constructing a map of mid-C17th Thames shoreline warehousing?


      No comprehensive study or map have been made of C17th warehousing and other commercial marine infrastructure on the north and south shores of the Thames from London Bridge down to Woolwich.  Morgan’s 1682 map and Rocque’s 1746 map show wharves and docks and hint at areas of warehousing, but provide no detail.


      English High Court of Admiralty (HCA) records make reference to various types of goods being stored in warehouses and name the parishes and wharves at which the goods were stored. Incoming goods mentioned include edible oils, grain, masts, pepper, pewter, wine, wood and whale oil. Outgoing goods include beads, cloth, drugs, groceries and metals. One starting point for a map of mid-C17th Thames shore warehousing would be to mine the MarineLives corpus for these warehousing references, and to link this to mining the same corpus for wharves and docks to which the warehouses were intimately linked.


      Bartholomew Cuff, a porter at the Still Yard Key, stated in the High Court of Admiralty that “the said Barfoote was cooper of the said oiles, and a cooper looked to them, after their landing, and was the man that put the said seaven tonnes in a warehouse and after they had laine about fourteene monethes at he Stillyard and that noe body would move them they were disposed of by the said Barfoot.” According to Bartholomew Cuff, the porters (including Cuff) were paid for their work by the cooper Alexander Baareffoott“. (HCA 13/72 f.329v)


      Depositions in the HCA made by porters, labourers, and coal heavers are particularly useful, as are depositions by wharfingers.





      ‘Morgan’s Map of the Whole of London in 1682 ‘, in Morgan’s Map of the Whole of London in 1682 ([s.l.], 1682), British History Online [accessed 03 December 2016 2016].


      GIS compliant version of John Rocque’s 1746 map of London, Westminster and Southwark, available on Locating London’s Past website, [accessed 03 December 2016]




      Photograph of Thames warehouses, undated, uncredited, from ‘What makes the Thames so special?’, The Liquid Highway blog, postedSept 17, 2016

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      Colin Greenstreet

      Twitter exchange with Dr Craig Spence, Saturday December 3rd 2016


      Post @Marinelivesorg:  Missing Thames infrastructure – Ideas for datamining text/archaeological records to find & map C17th Thames warehouses? #maphackathon



      Post @cgspence: @Marinelivesorg my book ‘London in the 1690s’ incs map locating taxed warehouses vaults etc. 4s Aid data may have specific locations.


      Post: @Marinelivesorg: @cgspence Is the 4s in £ data in digital form in London Lives for download via API?

      Post @Marinelivesorg:   @cgspence Do you have the data georeferenced? Can we use 4s data to geolocate your warehouse/vaults? Just London or also Stepney, Southark?


      Post  @cgspence: @Marinelivesorg need to look at data. Some street level info, others precinct/parish. Covers all areas N of Thames, unfortunately not South


      Post  @cgspence: @Marinelivesorg it is in London Lives but I don’t know whether all fields were inc. certainly can’t search on property But I have full data.


      Post @Marinelivesorg: @cgspence Is there a lot more data than in Keene, Earle, Spence, Barnes (1992), BHOL & in some form of digital map format? #maphackathon


      Post @Marinelivesorg: @cgspence Would be great – are you free on Feb 10th 2017 and fancy mashing data with @Marinelivesorg & @OldBaileyOnline? #maphackathon


      Post @Marinelivesorg: @cgspence What does accident data look like for riverside parishes? Presumably river & stevadoring & warehouse accidents? #maphackathon


      Post @Marinelivesorg @cgspence Fabulous able to interrogate data/make layers for parishes Saint Dusntans, St Katherines, Tower Liberty, Stepney #maphackathon



      Post  @cgspence: @Marinelivesorg lots re drownings also warehouse, dock & crane deaths, all located to parish some more precise. Be great to map


      Post @Marinelivesorg: @cgspence These would be fantastic as one/more additional layers to wap over a warehouse layer and a wharves/docks layer(s) at #maphackathon


      Post @cgspence@Marinelivesorg looks like full data set but I have further interpretive notes on specific entries. Streets and owners names inc in some


      Post @cgspence: @Marinelivesorg checked & LL data is searchable, eg returns 134 warehouses. Need precinct mapping to locate many, think I have boundary data


      Post @Marinelivesorg: @cgspence Let’s talk about this further – map of C17th warehouse mapping done as open-source layer would be an excellent #maphackathon goal


      Post @Marinelivesorg: @cgspence Wow – exciting data; could combine with text mining of @bho_history & @OldBaileyOnline for warehouses/wharves at #maphackathon

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